industry,
is in a class by itself.
Oh, boy, that's
my favorite picture of us.
What year was that?
Oh, who knows?
All I know is I cracked a joke,
and there was no laugh.
(laughs)
Here is an actor...
- Flop sweat.
- Flop sweat.
Here is the definition
of "flop sweat."
(clears throat)
Is it warm in here,
or is it just me?
Why am I so sweaty?
Oh, that's my metabolism.
Here's my Vulcan cap.
Oh, no, Leonard. Vulcan...
the U.S.S. Vulcan.
Yeah. Coast Guard ship.
A Coast Guard ship called
the Vulcan.
And then you got the E: Wterprise
Well, of course.
This whole house
is dedicated to Star Trek
(laughing)
No, not the whole house...
Just a little corner.
I feel that if you know someone
for the number of years
you and I have known each other,
it's almost like a debt.
Like, hey, perforce,
you know each other.
Perforce, you have something
so much in common
that if there were
no affection for each other,
you'd still be bonded
by the length of years
you've known each other.
And, so, I feel that,
in some lesser way,
a lot lesser way,
with the rest of the cast.
Do you feel affection for them?
Because I feel affronted,
I feel that I've been
assailed by some of them,
in defense, I've thought,
"Oh, well, I don't like them."
But that's childish.
Because I have no...
no feeling of animosity.
I never did feel,
never understood their reasons
for what I've read
is their distaste of me.
I was interviewing
Nichelle Nichols,
and I said, "Great, Nichelle,
that was a great interview.
Thank you so much."
I was closing up, this,
for a book I was writing.
She says, "Wait a minute,
don't you wanna hear
how much we hate you?"
(laughing)
Did she really say that?
She actually said,
"Wait a minute,
you wanna hear
how much we hate you?"
What?
(laughs)
What was that all about?
And then I turned on
the machine, and she said,
"Well, because you didn't
do this, you didn't do that,
and you never talked to us
when we were on the set."
It was, like, outlandish to me.
It was, like, outlandish stuff.
And childish.
What do you think that's about?
I have no idea.
I wondered if you knew.
(sighs)
I had one incident
with one of the actors.
One night, we were shooting
one of the movies.
And, uh, and I was finished
for the evening,
had cleaned up my makeup,
was walking on the lot
at night, dark, to my car.
Here's this actor
walking along ahead of me,
more slowly than I,
and as I'm passing to him,
I said, "Good night, So-and-so."
And he wouldn't respond,
didn't respond.
That's kinda strange.
I just kept on walking,
went to my car.
The next day,
in a group of people, casually,
I said, "I said good night
to you last night,
and you didn't respond to me."
And he said
"You wanna know why?!"
(laughing)
I thought,
"I'm not sure I really do."
The point is that, uh,
if there is a point here,
it's that there are unknown,
unexpected and sort of, um...
secret, hidden resentments
that build up.
I tried to explain it
to myself in this way...
You, DeForest, and I
were three people
who were there every day.
Yes.
And we worked our lengthy day,
come back the next day,
and we were three buddies,
really, buddies,
for almost the whole time,
with some exceptions.
They came in,
the other members of the cast,
on occasion,
a day a week, maybe,
sometimes not.
Right.
And the show was over,
everyone was happy.
At least as far as I know.
Then the conventions started,
and the actors would go
to the conventions.
And the audience would
get up and applaud.
And, slowly, I think,
the cast members began
to consider themselves
the leads in the film
and no longer wanted
to take a back seat.
Interesting.
And their perception of what
the reality was had changed.
So, you think that
all of this happened, sort of,
post, after the making
of the series?
I never got it...
I never heard it.
I never thought of
anything but, "Great..."
When I would